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>> i am worry about somewhere between the fbi and department. justice. someone didn't take it to the president of the united states. and when you are the period of the central intelligence agency. that is vital something that may be compromisinglet person. i don't want to the end. but i want the president to know in the beginning. and do you worry that the fbi was overaggressive in seeking out the facts and circumstances surrounding the affair. >> it is it always a legitimate. but when you are dialing with the cia director, it is a little different than most other people and because there is it such implication for national security. a lot of questions and answers and i don't want to jump to too many. you have four dead people in the benghazi and in the hospital still tonight. >> what about congressman king's contention on friday that there was a change in the national briefing that mentioned al-qaida. and by the time susan rice went on the sunday, infamous appearances on the sunday talk shows, that was deleted from her brief. >> if that is true, mr. pre
>> i am worry about somewhere between the fbi and department. justice. someone didn't take it to the president of the united states. and when you are the period of the central intelligence agency. that is vital something that may be compromisinglet person. i don't want to the end. but i want the president to know in the beginning. and do you worry that the fbi was overaggressive in seeking out the facts and circumstances surrounding the affair. >> it is it always a legitimate. but...
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so i think the fbi has a lot of questions to answer. >> lots of people including my next guest obviously have serious doubts, serious misgivings about the administration's contention that thes president only learned aftr the election about the sex scandal that destroyed general david petraeus' career. he is congressman from utah. thanks for being with us. why does it stick in your craw that eric holder said he only told the president after the election was over? >> well, look. general petraeus wasn't heading up the fish and while life department. he's the head of the cia. if there's an investigation, a question about what he's doing in his personal life, i think that should come to the the president of the united states. he may not to choose to do anything, but to leave him in the dark is inexcusable. >> ik hear skepticism in your voice. do you believe that there is some misreception going on? >> what i'm worried about is that somewhere between the fbi and the department of justice, somebody didn't take this to the president of the united states. when you're the head of the central intel
so i think the fbi has a lot of questions to answer. >> lots of people including my next guest obviously have serious doubts, serious misgivings about the administration's contention that thes president only learned aftr the election about the sex scandal that destroyed general david petraeus' career. he is congressman from utah. thanks for being with us. why does it stick in your craw that eric holder said he only told the president after the election was over? >> well, look....
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>> i think we have to let the fbi do their job. they're as good as any investigative agency in the world. they've done an outstanding job in investigations throughout the years. i think we have committees who do focus on their areas of expertise. as an example in the intelligence committee we focus on anything having to do with national security and the oversight of our intelligence communities. but you have other groups -- homeland security, you have other groups that might be focused on something that comes out as a result of this. the most important thing is we let the professionals do the job. we follow the facts and then we then as members of congress come together and make the decisions on what occurred and how things occurred. if you're talking about the benghazi issue we had four americans killed. we have to see whether there were intelligence failures. we have to make sure more importantly that americans who work for the state department or united states, anywhere in the world, are protected. and we want to see based on th
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kelley complained to an fbi agent and somehow, an fbi investigation into cyber stalking was opened, one that led the fbi to read broadwell's e-mails, then petraeus' and here we are. cyber stalking investigations appear to be rare. thousands of women are cyber stalked every year. the recourse for them is often nothing, which is a problem. ten cases have been prosecuted. somehow in this case, because jill kelly knew a guy, an investigation got opened here. if the thing that decides whether a case is open is someone has an agent's business card, then we are in trouble. in the midst of this coverage, it's difficult to separate it from trivial and the relevant. as gripping as the tale is, it is almost entirely that, a human drama. people acting as people do. i'm reasonably sure, a sweep of e-mails opened at random would reveal similarly sorted things. that's the point. we all have facts about ourselves we don't want the world to know. it's why privacy is important. details over our lives matter as a core protection from state overreach. the power that comes from inside knowledge of a person'
kelley complained to an fbi agent and somehow, an fbi investigation into cyber stalking was opened, one that led the fbi to read broadwell's e-mails, then petraeus' and here we are. cyber stalking investigations appear to be rare. thousands of women are cyber stalked every year. the recourse for them is often nothing, which is a problem. ten cases have been prosecuted. somehow in this case, because jill kelly knew a guy, an investigation got opened here. if the thing that decides whether a case...
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you served a long career in the fbi. you have a shirtless fbi agent, his picture circulating out there. he was involved, apparently, in some way in getting this information publicly. how does this impact the murail of the fbi men and women? >> the fbi agents in particular were not happy about the characterization of the shirtless agent and the pictures that went out. it's been established that picture was sent a long time ago, had nothing to do with this, and it was a joke on the part of that agent who had this picture taken in between two dummies and make it look like he was a target at the range, and he sent it to a number of people including the media. >> the fbi has really been amazing over these past few decades. since the sordid days of j. edgar hoover in rebuilding its reputation. an incident like this could have a negative impact. >> it could but it won't. the agents should not have got outside of the fbi. that's why these protocols exist. that's why the white house wasn't notified, because of what happened decad
you served a long career in the fbi. you have a shirtless fbi agent, his picture circulating out there. he was involved, apparently, in some way in getting this information publicly. how does this impact the murail of the fbi men and women? >> the fbi agents in particular were not happy about the characterization of the shirtless agent and the pictures that went out. it's been established that picture was sent a long time ago, had nothing to do with this, and it was a joke on the part of...
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had every leader of the intelligence community there, including folks from the state department, the fbi, everybody there was asked do you know who made these changes? and nobody knew. the only entity that reviewed the talking points that was not there was the white house. so that -- you know, i don't know whether -- what they said yesterday is exactly right or not, but what i do know is that every member of the intelligence community said that references to al-qaeda were removed by somebody and they don't know who. and references to attacks versus demonstrations were removed by somebody. >> let me ask you a question. will your committee, call on excuse son rice to ask her to testify? >> i don't know the answer to that right now. we will talk about that. we have two more hearings scheduled. >> do you think she will be called? >> she's going to have to come in and of it at some point. whether it's in a closed hearing or open hearing. we will have an open hearing too but at some point she needs to come in and say what the president or the white house directed her to say. >> senator leiberm
had every leader of the intelligence community there, including folks from the state department, the fbi, everybody there was asked do you know who made these changes? and nobody knew. the only entity that reviewed the talking points that was not there was the white house. so that -- you know, i don't know whether -- what they said yesterday is exactly right or not, but what i do know is that every member of the intelligence community said that references to al-qaeda were removed by somebody...
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>> i would prefer you to the fbi. they have -- as i understand it protocols in place for when they notify the legislative and executive branches of investigations. and, you know, it is simply a fact that the white house was not aware of the situation regarding general petraeus until wednesday, and the situation regarding general allen until friday. so, you know, the fbi is the place to go in terms of an explanation of the protocols they follow. but i understand that that is the answer that they will give, that there are protocols they follow, that govern how they inform the various branches of government of these kinds of investigations. >> do you understand how people would think this is utterly bizarre, i mean the day after the election, and the anger you're hearing on capitol hill that they didn't know this was going on, at least the timing, at least the appearance. >> look, all i can tell you is when the white house was informed. and i would let the relevant members of congress explain to you how and when they wer
>> i would prefer you to the fbi. they have -- as i understand it protocols in place for when they notify the legislative and executive branches of investigations. and, you know, it is simply a fact that the white house was not aware of the situation regarding general petraeus until wednesday, and the situation regarding general allen until friday. so, you know, the fbi is the place to go in terms of an explanation of the protocols they follow. but i understand that that is the answer...
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when the president talks about the fbi has a protocol, from the fbi's perspective, they followed it, but clearly it didn't make its way all the way up to the president. >> still questions about why the investigation began, whether it was appropriate for the fbi to even investigate this based on just the idea of harassing e-mails. if they were even that. fran townsend, appreciate it. suzanne kelly. >>> there is new information in the finances of jill kelley and her husband scott, the florida couple caught up in the scandal. they started a cancer charity back in 2005, shortly after they moved to tampa, dissolved it a couple of years later and they are facing several lawsuits over money problems. drew griffin who is part of the cnn special investigation unit joins us with more on that what have you learned? >> another twisted part of the tale, anderson. public records show as jill kelley was entertaining top military brass in her backyard, she and her husband, dr. scott kelley, were battling a bank in court, because the bank claimed they weren't paying their mortgage. documents show the
when the president talks about the fbi has a protocol, from the fbi's perspective, they followed it, but clearly it didn't make its way all the way up to the president. >> still questions about why the investigation began, whether it was appropriate for the fbi to even investigate this based on just the idea of harassing e-mails. if they were even that. fran townsend, appreciate it. suzanne kelly. >>> there is new information in the finances of jill kelley and her husband scott,...
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we will deal with the fbi -- and i think we should deal with the fbi, on security on the question of the line of notification. going forward we cannot have the white house not being informed, if it's necessary in the protection of the american people. >> the question is time. >> congresswoman sheila jackson lee, thank you so much for your time. let's go back to dana and to you susan. dana, you first. the issue about david petraeus. what was known, what happened when, the president did address the issue yesterday, though he moved on quickly. should the president have been notified earlier? >> it sounds like as a general matter, what the congresswoman is saying is correct. there should be some definition of when an investigation needs to be brought up. but certainly if the fbi is looking to something in the white house you want want them alerting the white house. in the case of petraeus, nobody is furnishing any evidence that national security was compromised in any way. which raises the question, why was this so important in the first place and why is this worth ending the career of t
we will deal with the fbi -- and i think we should deal with the fbi, on security on the question of the line of notification. going forward we cannot have the white house not being informed, if it's necessary in the protection of the american people. >> the question is time. >> congresswoman sheila jackson lee, thank you so much for your time. let's go back to dana and to you susan. dana, you first. the issue about david petraeus. what was known, what happened when, the president...
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the fbi discovered the affair months ago after jill kelly, a petra friend went to the fbi began receiving threatening e-mails from another woman. she was concerned someone was blackmailing petraeus. some question why the fbi didn't notify top members of congress before the shocking announcement. lawmakers question the timing of the resignation as cia director petraeus was supposed to testify before congress about the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. instead, cia director michael morrell will be questioned about the attack that killed chris stevens and three other americans. former cia director michael hayden said at some point petraeus should testify. >> general pet tray cause -- petraeus have personal insight because he visited libya after the attack and those owes. the timing it is mysterious. >> reporter: fox news learned that paula broadwell may have revealed classified information during a speech at her alma mater, the university of den verb. in that speech she suggests that petraeus knew almost immediately the attack was a terror attack possibly to free militia members. >>
the fbi discovered the affair months ago after jill kelly, a petra friend went to the fbi began receiving threatening e-mails from another woman. she was concerned someone was blackmailing petraeus. some question why the fbi didn't notify top members of congress before the shocking announcement. lawmakers question the timing of the resignation as cia director petraeus was supposed to testify before congress about the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. instead, cia director michael...
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officials, the director of national intelligence, the acting director of the cia, senior deputy at the fbi, senior undersecretary of the state department as well as the head of the national terrorism center. and the active director of the cia will tell members of congress that the annex did not call for military assistance to help them on the day of the attack in benghazi, jenna. jenna: there is so much happening cat reurpbgs the foc catherine, the focus today, what are you happening. >> reporter: fox news was told the focus breaks down into a handful of areas. what was the intelligence picture leading up to the benghazi attack. between june and september there were at least three attacks on benghazi on western or diplomatic interests. at what point did the u.s. intelligence community assessment show that benghazi was a terrorist attack, and how did that conflict with the obama administration's statement that it was a spontaneous demonstration in response to this anti-islam video. and also director petraeus, at what point did he understand whether he was the focus of an fbi investigation a
officials, the director of national intelligence, the acting director of the cia, senior deputy at the fbi, senior undersecretary of the state department as well as the head of the national terrorism center. and the active director of the cia will tell members of congress that the annex did not call for military assistance to help them on the day of the attack in benghazi, jenna. jenna: there is so much happening cat reurpbgs the foc catherine, the focus today, what are you happening. >>...
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, has never been informed he's under investigation, though leaks from the fbi suggested otherwise. he says his client, fred humphreys, sent those photos to jill kelley a long time ago, those shirtless photos. they showed him on a firing range, they socialized with humphreys and his wife. also on capitol hill right now before the senate armed services committee general joe dunford is appearing. he is slated to be the next top u.s. commander in the afghanistan. jon: what a tangled-up mess. jennifer griffin at the pentagon, thank you. jenna: now this fox news alert on the economy, also a big story today. 439,000 americans filing first-time unemployment benefits last week, the highest level in 18 months. let's take a look at the dow today originally the premarket really reacting to this. now the dow is down nearly 50 points. fox business network's diane ma say doe joins us live. we now know the president is touring some of the damaged areas in the new york region because of superstorm sandy, and superstorm sandy may have impacted these numbers. >> that's right. well, those 439,000 clai
, has never been informed he's under investigation, though leaks from the fbi suggested otherwise. he says his client, fred humphreys, sent those photos to jill kelley a long time ago, those shirtless photos. they showed him on a firing range, they socialized with humphreys and his wife. also on capitol hill right now before the senate armed services committee general joe dunford is appearing. he is slated to be the next top u.s. commander in the afghanistan. jon: what a tangled-up mess....
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she goes to the fbi. and that's how they get to the affair. >> this other woman, and we know she's not in the government and that she's not a family member, complained to the fbi about what she felt were harass k and threatening e-mails. it was that investigation that led -- they were anonymous e-mails. that led to broadwell's e-mail account. and by examining broadwell's, paula broadwell the biographer's e-mail account that's they uncovered or stumbled as they put it into this -- >> there were actually explicit e-mails between broadwell and petraeus. >> or some indication in those e-mails of an ongoing relationship. that's according to fbi officials and other officials with whom we've spoken. it was that -- and we should stress, there was never an investigation into petraeus. and they have pretty much shut down any idea that there was any kind of security or national security leaks. so this is not a criminal matter. and it would have rested there had not, and this is what is new in the last 24 hours, had
she goes to the fbi. and that's how they get to the affair. >> this other woman, and we know she's not in the government and that she's not a family member, complained to the fbi about what she felt were harass k and threatening e-mails. it was that investigation that led -- they were anonymous e-mails. that led to broadwell's e-mail account. and by examining broadwell's, paula broadwell the biographer's e-mail account that's they uncovered or stumbled as they put it into this -- >>...
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investigation, i don't wt to question the motives of the fbi. i am sure that they -- they have gone by the instructions of which they operate. neil: when you are under president nixon, even when the administrations were competing, they thought that was okay. they thought they were doing better for the country. >> the fbi did it to prove the job. they did the internal pursuit of espionage in this country. they operated abroad. sometimes these lines might cros. i did not come across it during the watergate period. neil: we are not after that. this is a scandal that grows in your opinion? or not? >> you know, i endorsed governor romney. but i would like now to the new administration could start without avoidable controversy. but the information was known at a high-level, it is a matter that the countries want to look into. on the whole, i would like to focus on the future. to not have beginning of administration. that would be my attitude. this evidence developed of the major capacity, there will be consequences. neil: we are going to take a quick
investigation, i don't wt to question the motives of the fbi. i am sure that they -- they have gone by the instructions of which they operate. neil: when you are under president nixon, even when the administrations were competing, they thought that was okay. they thought they were doing better for the country. >> the fbi did it to prove the job. they did the internal pursuit of espionage in this country. they operated abroad. sometimes these lines might cros. i did not come across it...
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she went to the fbi and doesn't realize that the fbi would do a total investigation in on her as well call petraeus. >> she is getting e-mails. and wouldn't she go to petraeus, you wouldn't believe this e-mail. i am getting them. >> if she had shame. >> but she thought she was so connected no one could bring her down. >> that is it a double entrendry. >> there is it one lawsuit and you know that a civil one could come between jill kelley and suing paula broadwell. she has been psycher stalked and she could actually go out and go after paula for doing that. >> you are sleeping with the head of the cia and you can write an autobigrammy . and you have no credentials to do and we'll award you money. >> some people think the terrorist attack caused by a youtube video. and people may. >> gloria allred will call jim kelley. >> her name will not be smoking. >> aren't you concerned about the fact that men can be so weak that they can're - can be manipulated. if you could read my mind 23 hours a day. we are sick human beings and we are visually stimulated and sexually predatorial. nand yes, we
she went to the fbi and doesn't realize that the fbi would do a total investigation in on her as well call petraeus. >> she is getting e-mails. and wouldn't she go to petraeus, you wouldn't believe this e-mail. i am getting them. >> if she had shame. >> but she thought she was so connected no one could bring her down. >> that is it a double entrendry. >> there is it one lawsuit and you know that a civil one could come between jill kelley and suing paula broadwell....
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now this fbi agent, launched the investigation. his relationship with jill kelly, the family friend being investigated. seeing this thing develop now on three different tiers. >>> general allen says he disputes there is any wrongdoing. that he is, he has done anything wrong. and they're not trying, right now at this point not speculating as to what the relationship with jill kelly was. we are not going to speculate it either. >> no, no. see what the e-mails contain. 30,000 e-mails we will see. >> some of them inappropriate. >> allegedly. >> the search is on for a tech pioneer, john mcafee, mcafee lives in belize where his next door neighbor has been found shot to death. police there call 67-year-old mcafee a person of interest in this case. a number of people, describe his recent behavior as eccentric. >>> five family members including three children have been found dead inside a toledo, ohio garage. police say it looks like a murder suicide. all five died of carbon monoxide poisoning from truck exhaust piped in through hoses. poli
now this fbi agent, launched the investigation. his relationship with jill kelly, the family friend being investigated. seeing this thing develop now on three different tiers. >>> general allen says he disputes there is any wrongdoing. that he is, he has done anything wrong. and they're not trying, right now at this point not speculating as to what the relationship with jill kelly was. we are not going to speculate it either. >> no, no. see what the e-mails contain. 30,000...
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as an old fbi agent, you should prove it first. >> but this is important. you're saying petraeus says, look, i said it was terrorism all along. susan rice told the american people we thought it was spontaneous. there's a disconnect. >> even more important than that, the narrative as it went from the cia to other intelligence agencies was correct. it was an act of terrorism. we knew that. the difference is what happened when it went outside of the intelligence community for, as the senator called it, you know, a committee to look at this thing and make the determination on what the narrative was. the narrative was wrong. and why that's important, this isn't just about parsing words and who was right. there was some policy decisions made based on the narrative that was not consistent with the intelligence that we had. that's my concern. and we need to say, hey, we need to figure out how that happened, and let's make sure that doesn't happen again. >> did people die because we didn't protect them adequately? is that the bottom line here? >> david, we gave the
as an old fbi agent, you should prove it first. >> but this is important. you're saying petraeus says, look, i said it was terrorism all along. susan rice told the american people we thought it was spontaneous. there's a disconnect. >> even more important than that, the narrative as it went from the cia to other intelligence agencies was correct. it was an act of terrorism. we knew that. the difference is what happened when it went outside of the intelligence community for, as the...
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he put it all on the fbi. >> the fbi has its own protocalls in terms of how they proceed and i'm going to let director mueller and others examine these protocalls and make some statements to the public. >> now, the fbi is facing intense criticism over its handling of the investigation. perhaps, that's why robert mueller made an unexpected visit to capitol hill today to answer questions. at issue is the timeline of events and why it took as lock as it did to find out that the nation's chief intelligence person was under investigation. let's just go through this timeline again. it started in may. the fbi at that time first started looking into anonymous harassing e-mails sent to jill kelley. that's where agent humphries comes in. it was late in the summer when high level officials at the fbi and justice department were told that their investigation had also uncovered an affair between david petraeus and his biographer, paula broadwell. it's not clear when mueller and holder were notified, but in mid october, the fbi interviewed paula broadwell and david petraeus. eric cantor was told of
he put it all on the fbi. >> the fbi has its own protocalls in terms of how they proceed and i'm going to let director mueller and others examine these protocalls and make some statements to the public. >> now, the fbi is facing intense criticism over its handling of the investigation. perhaps, that's why robert mueller made an unexpected visit to capitol hill today to answer questions. at issue is the timeline of events and why it took as lock as it did to find out that the...
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was not passed to the head of the fbi for four days t took four days to find the head of the fbi, i don't know why, and the fbi is saying the reason why they can't get information promptly to the director is because hurricane sandy delayed the message. figure on that one. the fbi may be at her house tonight but they have been dragging their feet trying to move this. >> well, i think there's still a lot of questions that are to be answered as to the timeline, why certain things were done when. i think that's one of the big outstanding questions. but, you know, a lot of it gets back to the very beginning, which is the question i've heard a lot from folks of that just been reading our stories is why did the fbi start this investigation anyway? i get weird or annoying e-mails all the time and i don't run to the fbi and if i did i don't know that the fbi would do anything about it. that's another reason there's some i think gaps that need to be explained as to how this process began and where it ended up. >> of course, you have to go back to the fact there are four americans mured in the
was not passed to the head of the fbi for four days t took four days to find the head of the fbi, i don't know why, and the fbi is saying the reason why they can't get information promptly to the director is because hurricane sandy delayed the message. figure on that one. the fbi may be at her house tonight but they have been dragging their feet trying to move this. >> well, i think there's still a lot of questions that are to be answered as to the timeline, why certain things were done...
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fbi crashed through. first of all, they launch a -- they use their cyber unit to launch an investigation on half dozen e-mails talking about a purported affair. they launch a cyber investigation there. and then they start digging in and they have to go into a private citizen's e-mail account. and so they go into paula broadwell's private e-mail accounts, they've crashed through a wall there. the facts as we know it do not justify other than somebody wants to embarrass david petraeus. >> right. >> and then they get into paula broadwell's e-mails, then break down another wall to get into david petraeus' e-mail account. and then they justify that and break down that wall and say, well, you know, national security may have been compromised because maybe she sent along classified documents, but she didn't, so there, somebody responsible at the fbi has to say, okay, guys, you know what? nothing to see here. it's internal investigation, you know, petraeus may be acting up, but this is no longer a crime. they sai
fbi crashed through. first of all, they launch a -- they use their cyber unit to launch an investigation on half dozen e-mails talking about a purported affair. they launch a cyber investigation there. and then they start digging in and they have to go into a private citizen's e-mail account. and so they go into paula broadwell's private e-mail accounts, they've crashed through a wall there. the facts as we know it do not justify other than somebody wants to embarrass david petraeus. >>...